Trackman 2 and Flightscope X2 preowned for sale. I know of one of each currently for sale. If you are interested, please email me at email@example.com and I will forward your email to the selling parties. I currently have no information on the machines but can speak highly of the sellers.
They are both great and respected coaches. Let me know if you’re interested.
UPDATE (10-14-12) I now know of a Trackman 3 and an additional Flightscope X2 for sale. Trackman 2 is selling for $13000 and Trackman 3 for $19995.
7 Nights of the Twitter Academy. This idea born from Jason Helman is designed to match the Golf Channels 7 Nights of their Academy. It will feature 7 Top Coaches that have extensive Twitter followings. Each night, one of the coaches will showcase a subject specific video with each coach taking on a different subject.
It should be a great opportunity for golfers to get some additional information from some top coaches. It starts tomorrow night, Dec. 12th at 8:00pm and runs for 7 nights. Topics covered will be Putting, Driving, Chipping, Approach Irons, Mid and Long Irons, Bunkers and Club Fitting with the order of information from the green outwards.
I know all of these coaches well and I’m really looking forward to see what they have come up with. I also hope that this starts some kind of regular thing because I think it is a great idea to showcase great information in a medium that is different than where most go to find good golf information. I can tell you from experience that Twitter is one of the best places to go for good golf information and I hope the 7 Nights of the Twitter Academy brings home that point.
Here are a couple trailers to view.
In order to watch the Twitter videos, you’ll want to follow the presenters. Here’s is the order they will appear and their Twitter Usernames so you can follow them. Click on their name to go to their website and their twitter handle to follow them.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I was traveling Europe teaching AimPoint Green Reading with my good friend Jamie Donaldson. Right at the end of the trip, I went to Austria to see Christoph Bausek and did some Trackman vs Flightscope X2 testing. The results of those tests can be found by reading this – Trackman vs Flightscope X2
While I was there, I also did a little Trackman hitting myself. I thought it would neat to share. I have nothing to hide and wanted to see how my typical swing numbers compared to the swing I was working on. I wanted to see if there was a real measurable difference or not and how much if there was.
I think it is important for us teachers to feel comfortable sharing information like this. I am not here to impress anyone but rather to see the difference a swing thought can make in real, measurable results. Here is the data for you to enjoy, snicker, or whatever emotion you want to throw in there. =)
Just thought some of you may want to take a look at some of the data from Trackman. Feel free to copy, save and pass it on if you think someone you know would like it by using the social media buttons.
Trackman and Flightscope are, in my opinion, the two main companies in the Dopplar Radar ball and club measuring devices category. I have written multiple comparisons between the two companies machines and each time I felt Trackman was more accurate. This blog represents the next chapter and will include information from my latest side by side test of the Trackman vs. Flightscope X2. The last side by side blog is here(Trackman v Flightscope) and then my review of Flightscopes new X2 from the PGA show is here(Flightscope X2 Review). Let’s see if the new Flightscope X2 has changed my mind.
In the past, it has been my opinion that the Flightscope offerings weren’t as accurate in measuring the correct club geometry across a couple different models. The X2 that I tested at the PGA Show seemed a significant improvement over all other previous Flightscope machines and I felt it was accurate enough to justify the reduced price. I think the main reason why this series of blogs have been so widely read is because of the significant price difference between the machines (somewhere around $10000 US difference with Trackman being the more expensive machine).
Coaches and players want to know if the extra cost is really worth it. What do you get for that extra $10000? My goal has been to accurately portray the two machines as best that I can. As a coach that owns neither machine, I think it allows me to provide the most honest, fair and critical comparison of the two machines.
Ok, so here we go. First off, I want the thank Christoph Bausek and Markus Teubner for arranging the comparison. Both coaches are from Austria with Christoph being from Linz and Marcus from Mühlviertel. You can learn more about these coaches by visiting their websites. Christoph’s is www.golf.bausek.at and Markus’ is www.golfschuleteubner.at. Christoph is the one that brought me to Austria and organized the countries first AimPoint Green Reading clinic which included a bunch of Austrian coaches and some amateurs. It was after this AimPoint clinic that we did some Dopplar Radar comparison testing. First we did Trackman vs Trackman (read more here) and then we did Trackman vs Flightscope X2.
Christoph and Marcus did a fantastic job trying to accurately calibrate the two machines to the same target. This proved to be very difficult and certainly to everyones agreement, is a feature that may create inconsistencies in the results. We tried multiple combinations but couldn’t really create a situation that provided perfect calibration so keep that in mind when reading the results.
Here are a couple pictures and videos from the test.
Here is a video with the Christoph and I discussing the results.
The main thing to take away is that both machines were very similar in their tracking of the golf ball. So much so, that I believe it would be inside the margin of error making both machines equal in performance in this area. There were some disagreements in the amounts of some of the parameters. Mainly, Angle of attack, Vertical Swing Plane, Club Head speed and Dynamic loft. In each of these areas, Flightscope reported a number that was either greater than Trackman(faster club head speed and higher dynamic loft) or steeper(steeper Angle of Attack and steeper Vertical Swing Plane) than Trackman. Even though there were differences they were consistent. The amount of variance was nearly the same each time. Driver had less variance than iron shots. Here are a couple things to keep in mind. We didn’t know when Flightscope measured dynamic loft whether it was before impact or after. We also know that calibration was not accurate and this may have something to do with the numbers.
I can say that the Flightscope X2 certainly was an improvement over Flightscopes earlier offerings. The angles of attack did seem steeper than my personal results from the PGA show and there were no angles of attack that were positive on an iron shot. At the show, I was around 2 to 4 degrees down with a 7 iron and was in that same neighborhood on Trackman. I didn’t hit balls in the side by side test but the angles of attack from Flightscope seemed steeper than I would imagine for the player hitting. They were mostly in the 7 to 8 degrees down area which didn’t visually match his impact interval appearance. Trackman typically had him in the 3 to 4 degrees down area for the 7 iron. It was mainly this issue (angle of attack numbers) that had concerned me about the accuracy of Flightscope’s earlier machines . I also must say that a firmware update is coming soon and that Christoph and Markus plan to do another test at some point in the future with the new firmware update. As we mentioned in the video, there really is no way to tell how far apart these machines are now. We can’t accurately say what the angle of attack really is and it’s quite possible that the real answer could be somewhere in between the two results we received from the different machines.
The big question still remains. Is the $10000 difference in price worth it? Is Trackman $10000 more accurate than Flightscope X2? I can’t really answer that question for you as it is a choice that each coach must come to on their own. As someone that prefers exact over close, I would choose exact. After testing Trackman vs Trackman and Trackman vs X2 I can’t say either one of them is exact. In the past, I felt that Trackman was the more accurate machine but I can no longer prove that Trackman is more accurate. I can only say that the Trackman is still much easier to set up and use and that Flightscope X2 reports information that is more similar to Trackman than any earlier machine that Flightscope has produced.
I hope this helps and if you know a coach that may be considering a purchase, please consider sharing this post by using the Twitter and Facebook share buttons located at the bottom of this post. Stay tuned for additional posts on this topic as I will update it after the next Flightscope X2 firmware update is in place.
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